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[edit] Welcome

Hey WTarrasque, I see you've been pretty busy - thanks for all those edits, and welcome to HammerWiki. :) If you need anything, be sure to ask a user or admin. You probably know your way around a wiki fairly well as I can see, but if you do want to know anything: we have a handy editing guide. Have fun editing! ~ Revoran | talk 06:32, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Revoran! I was trying to set up a hierarchy for History & Lore unlocks and made a few mistakes along the way! Do you know of any good ways to create "spoiler" collapsing text? That way people who navigate to a page by mistake won't read things if they don't want to? WTarrasque 06:44, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
(we usually indent comments one further than the last until it gets too far across the page and then reset) - I'm sorry I don't know of a way to do that off the top of my head, though it is certainly possible, and there has already been some discussion on the topic of collapseable spoiler text or spoiler notices (something similar to Template:Stub) on pages - if I remember rightly it was on Talk:Lair. Feel free add any concerns you might have, we're not a dictatorship here ;) ~ Revoran | talk 07:15, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
Here's wikipedia's template, wikia got exactly the same, I'll make a copypasta to try it out. ∞ Sunspots {Talk | Contribs} 12:20, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
EDIT: Oh, didn't see that we needed some CSS and JavaScript ∞ Sunspots {Talk | Contribs} 12:32, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hidden/Spoiler Functionality

Sunspots, I appreciate you trying to help work on this for me. I tried my own copypastas from ::: wikipedia and wikia. Neither worked for me, no surprise. You said "oh, it uses CSS or Javascipt." I'm pretty sure this is beyond my current capabilities. Is it beyond yours, too? I have to work now, sadly, but I'm going to hunt through other wiki's later if someone hasn't solved this for us yet. WoWWiki mentions NavBox functionality for the same thing: link (WTarrasque 14:41, 18 September 2008 (UTC))

If we get the required Javascript and CSS I'm pretty sure that someone that knows how can deal with it. ∞ Sunspots {Talk | Contribs} 15:09, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
I played around a little more. Some Wikipedia Commons people seems to have created something useful. Please see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Grm_wnr/DynNavBox (WTarrasque 15:31, 18 September 2008 (UTC))
EDIT: I'm trying to bring in guru help here: http://warhammeronline.wikia.com/wiki/HammerWiki_talk:Community_Portal#Spoiler.2FCollapse_Tags

[edit] New History and Lore Format

I like the new format, though I think History and Lore should come before any other identifiers, since these are intended for use in the History and Lore article. For example, rather than [[Dwarfs vs. Greenskin/History & Lore]], it would be [[History and Lore/Dwarfs vs Greenskins]]. If you'll notice, in my example I also remove the ampersand and period. -- Heaven's Agent 16:27, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

I have difficulty removing the Amperand (&) and period (.). This may because I am a purist, and I'd like Tome of Knowledge articles to match the in-game ToK as well as possible. In game, History & Lore has the ampersand, and the vs. between pairing realms has the period. If removing them makes sense to match HTML, I guess I'm being a snob, though. Does it make sense for HTML reasons? ¬ WTarrasque { talk | contribs } 21:24, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
Don't worry, as far as I can tell you're no snob. :D
To be honest, I'm not sure if it effects the HTML or not. My reason for changing them was to make it easier for visitors to find the pages with a basic search. That and my own snobbery causes me to flinch when I see unneeded special characters and punctuation in an article title. Maybe someone with a little more HTML knowledge will weigh in. -- Heaven's Agent 22:13, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
I think we could go either way, because in-game they use the Ampersand (&). It is my personal opinion Wiki searches suck. I don't know why they suck or how to fix them, but I think they do. As such, I don't depend on an intelligent search engine that breaks down terms, does a fuzzy search, and compares relevance.
So, in terms of searching, I have noticed if a Wiki can't find the exact text match for a page, it searches as a combination of terms, space delimited. As long as there is an "and" somewhere in the article you want to find, the search will pick it up if there is no ampersand in the title. For example: http://warhammeronline.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Search?search=Barak+Varr+-+History+and+Lore&go=1
I will then make the leap of logic that if there is no 'ampersand' in the page, then searching with an 'ampersand' will yield no results. I was wrong! I made this page and searched for it with an 'ampersand' ('&') and an 'ampersand'. It seems to ignore the 'ampersand' for the search. If I put an 'ampersand' ('&') in the title of page and don't have an 'and' in it, happens. It found both!
I therefore am not so worried, 'ampersand' ('&') vs. 'and'. It comes down to the naming convention for HammerWiki. I can't find one, yet. ¬ WTarrasque { talk | contribs } 23:15, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
As far as I'm aware, we still lack naming conventions here. We need them as soon as possible, especially now that we have a rapidly expanding collection of articles and contributers. While we're at it, expanded style conventions couldn't hurt either. -- Heaven's Agent 01:12, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Since I started the History &/And Lore Sections, I feel responsible to get them properly set up ASAP. I'm tempted to do it now, but I believe there are at least 4 constant contributors I should have feedback from. However, since you seem to be the only one in open dialog with me, I think I should move on this. I'd like to change the structure to being like the one as an example here: User:WTarrasque/History_&_Lore
If you think it's good, I will do so. I will maintain the previous categorization I had, but also maintain it within the new naming conventions. I'd like to keep the period and the ampersand, but if you (a more experience wiki-editor) thinks they should be removed, I will move and modify all the pages, and mark the old ones for deletion, according to the new categorization with no 'amperands' ('&') in the title and no periods in vs('.'). ¬ WTarrasque { talk | contribs } 04:46, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
P.S. I may be being too impatient, but I get a "get going" vibe from you, too.
Run with it. As I said my major concern for not having special characters was that it might hamper the search function, but you pretty much put those concerns to rest; they don't seem to harm the functioning of the wiki, either, so I see no problem with keeping them.
Going back to my first comment, I still believe the order of the page titles should be changed slightly so that "History & Lore" comes before everything else, but all in all I think this will work out beautifully. -- Heaven's Agent 05:25, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Thy will be done, on earth as suggested by User:Heaven's Agent. Scripture and wiki's about fictional war! Good pun city! ¬ WTarrasque { talk | contribs } 06:21, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Man, did I ever misunderstand what was going on. It's my fault, completely. I didn't think you were going to name the articles as you are now, I thought that was how you were going to organize the structure. For example, instead of a page Dwarfs vs. Greenskins/History & Lore/Tier 3 Zones/The Badlands, I thought you were going to have an article History & Lore, with the following structure on the page:

Don't ask me why I was thinking this. You made it pretty clear, I just didn't open my eyes or something. -- Heaven's Agent 07:25, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Is that you telling me to stop? I've only done most of the Dwarf v Greenskins so far. Should I revert them? ¬ WTarrasque { talk | contribs } 07:27, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
NOTE: I do have a page like that, too! Tome of Knowledge/History & Lore
I think it's a real easy fix. What I said about the structure still holds; you came up with a great way to organize things, straightforward and so simple that everyone had simply looked past it. I don't think the article titles need to be so lengthy, though. Instead of Dwarfs vs. Greenskins/History & Lore/Tier 3 Zones/The Badlands, I believe The Badlands History & Lore should do the job.
Also a quick question: I noticed you listed the intermediate steps as wiki-linked pages as well. Do you think there will be enough information to warrant such pages? -- Heaven's Agent 07:34, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
As for Tome of Knowledge/History & Lore, that's what I was thinking, just without the long page titles. In fact, that page title could likely be shortened as well, to simply History & Lore. -- Heaven's Agent 07:36, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Okaydokey, I'll try to fix my mistakes, after thinking I was fixing my mistake.. and so on. I'll try to sort it. If you help, so be it. I'll start by reorganizing that History & Lore page to be what just made Tome of Knowledge/History & Lore to be. ¬ WTarrasque { talk | contribs } 07:39, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
I'll be glad to help out; there's been a lot of confusion here, and I did my part in adding to it. The original discussion was in regard to categories, in which the slash-based naming structure would have been appropriate, but somewhere along the line it was applied to the naming of the articles themselves. Anyway, we'll get this straightened out. My apologies. -- Heaven's Agent 07:44, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
I wish there was a way to talk to you directly, in-game or by AIM. I'm kind of waiting for you to confirm things before I fix them. I think I FINALLY got it RIGHT. So simple, I actually can DESCRIBE IT. See it outlined here, even in the right place: History & Lore
Tenets:
  1. Each 'History & Lore' page is a subpage of the zone's page. This makes SENSE!
  2. Each Page is categorized by it's pairing and its Tier.
    1. The Tier's are subcategories of [:Category:History & Lore]. Category:History & Lore/Tier 1 Zones
    2. The Pairing's are subcategories of [:Category:History & Lore]. Ex: Category:History & Lore/Dwarfs vs. Greenskins
  3. Each Page contains all the unlocks in the zone, organized by being Destruction Only, Order Only, or Both
  4. ????
  5. Profit!
That's my spiel. What do you think? ¬ WTarrasque { talk | contribs } 07:55, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
To quote one of my favorite television personalities, "That's money." -- Heaven's Agent 07:57, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks again for all the help Heaven. Can I give you a gold star somehow? ¬ WTarrasque { talk | contribs } 08:25, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

We're getting it done. That's all the gold star I need.
Good work to you as well. You've put a lot into this. That said, we're getting to the point where two cooks are one too many; I've noticed we've both been editing a few pages at the same time. I'm heading to bed. Take care. :D -- Heaven's Agent 08:37, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
May the cherubs bring you dreams of whatever you wish to dream of. Personally, I have started dreaming of wiki edits some nights. I'm going to bed, too, cause our task is done, as far as I've checked. Sorry to impinge on your edits. Your help with this tonight was essential, and I think we hashed out a directory structure, by trial-and-error at the least. ... I wonder how much faster I could've done this all with admin powers.
I'm posting our decisions to: HammerWiki talk:Community Portal/Structure
Thanks again! ¬ WTarrasque { talk | contribs } 08:44, 30 September 2008 (UTC)



[edit] mmmmmmmmm yummmy info

just wanted to say thanks for all that info about history & lore =) I have not yet seen a site with anything about tome of knowledge really, so I've been workin on the chaptered story.... but anyway, those directions are great! Can't wait to see more history and lore info =) Silenas-n-Jynnx 15:44, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

I just keep posting suggestions to other people to help! The community does the work, I just try to make it readable! Thanks for the support ¬ WTarrasque { talk | contribs } 15:51, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New History and Lore Format

I like the new format, though I think History and Lore should come before any other identifiers, since these are intended for use in the History and Lore article. For example, rather than [[Dwarfs vs. Greenskin/History & Lore]], it would be [[History and Lore/Dwarfs vs Greenskins]]. If you'll notice, in my example I also remove the ampersand and period. -- Heaven's Agent 16:27, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

I have difficulty removing the Amperand (&) and period (.). This may because I am a purist, and I'd like Tome of Knowledge articles to match the in-game ToK as well as possible. In game, History & Lore has the ampersand, and the vs. between pairing realms has the period. If removing them makes sense to match HTML, I guess I'm being a snob, though. Does it make sense for HTML reasons? ¬ WTarrasque { talk | contribs } 21:24, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
Don't worry, as far as I can tell you're no snob. :D
To be honest, I'm not sure if it effects the HTML or not. My reason for changing them was to make it easier for visitors to find the pages with a basic search. That and my own snobbery causes me to flinch when I see unneeded special characters and punctuation in an article title. Maybe someone with a little more HTML knowledge will weigh in. -- Heaven's Agent 22:13, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
I think we could go either way, because in-game they use the Ampersand (&). It is my personal opinion Wiki searches suck. I don't know why they suck or how to fix them, but I think they do. As such, I don't depend on an intelligent search engine that breaks down terms, does a fuzzy search, and compares relevance.
So, in terms of searching, I have noticed if a Wiki can't find the exact text match for a page, it searches as a combination of terms, space delimited. As long as there is an "and" somewhere in the article you want to find, the search will pick it up if there is no ampersand in the title. For example: http://warhammeronline.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Search?search=Barak+Varr+-+History+and+Lore&go=1
I will then make the leap of logic that if there is no 'ampersand' in the page, then searching with an 'ampersand' will yield no results. I was wrong! I made this page and searched for it with an 'ampersand' ('&') and an 'ampersand'. It seems to ignore the 'ampersand' for the search. If I put an 'ampersand' ('&') in the title of page and don't have an 'and' in it, happens. It found both!
I therefore am not so worried, 'ampersand' ('&') vs. 'and'. It comes down to the naming convention for HammerWiki. I can't find one, yet. ¬ WTarrasque { talk | contribs } 23:15, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
As far as I'm aware, we still lack naming conventions here. We need them as soon as possible, especially now that we have a rapidly expanding collection of articles and contributers. While we're at it, expanded style conventions couldn't hurt either. -- Heaven's Agent 01:12, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Since I started the History &/And Lore Sections, I feel responsible to get them properly set up ASAP. I'm tempted to do it now, but I believe there are at least 4 constant contributors I should have feedback from. However, since you seem to be the only one in open dialog with me, I think I should move on this. I'd like to change the structure to being like the one as an example here: User:WTarrasque/History_&_Lore
If you think it's good, I will do so. I will maintain the previous categorization I had, but also maintain it within the new naming conventions. I'd like to keep the period and the ampersand, but if you (a more experience wiki-editor) thinks they should be removed, I will move and modify all the pages, and mark the old ones for deletion, according to the new categorization with no 'amperands' ('&') in the title and no periods in vs('.'). ¬ WTarrasque { talk | contribs } 04:46, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
P.S. I may be being too impatient, but I get a "get going" vibe from you, too.
Run with it. As I said my major concern for not having special characters was that it might hamper the search function, but you pretty much put those concerns to rest; they don't seem to harm the functioning of the wiki, either, so I see no problem with keeping them.
Going back to my first comment, I still believe the order of the page titles should be changed slightly so that "History & Lore" comes before everything else, but all in all I think this will work out beautifully. -- Heaven's Agent 05:25, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Thy will be done, on earth as suggested by User:Heaven's Agent. Scripture and wiki's about fictional war! Good pun city! ¬ WTarrasque { talk | contribs } 06:21, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Man, did I ever misunderstand what was going on. It's my fault, completely. I didn't think you were going to name the articles as you are now, I thought that was how you were going to organize the structure. For example, instead of a page Dwarfs vs. Greenskins/History & Lore/Tier 3 Zones/The Badlands, I thought you were going to have an article History & Lore, with the following structure on the page:

Don't ask me why I was thinking this. You made it pretty clear, I just didn't open my eyes or something. -- Heaven's Agent 07:25, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Is that you telling me to stop? I've only done most of the Dwarf v Greenskins so far. Should I revert them? ¬ WTarrasque { talk | contribs } 07:27, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
NOTE: I do have a page like that, too! Tome of Knowledge/History & Lore
I think it's a real easy fix. What I said about the structure still holds; you came up with a great way to organize things, straightforward and so simple that everyone had simply looked past it. I don't think the article titles need to be so lengthy, though. Instead of Dwarfs vs. Greenskins/History & Lore/Tier 3 Zones/The Badlands, I believe The Badlands History & Lore should do the job.
Also a quick question: I noticed you listed the intermediate steps as wiki-linked pages as well. Do you think there will be enough information to warrant such pages? -- Heaven's Agent 07:34, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
As for Tome of Knowledge/History & Lore, that's what I was thinking, just without the long page titles. In fact, that page title could likely be shortened as well, to simply History & Lore. -- Heaven's Agent 07:36, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Okaydokey, I'll try to fix my mistakes, after thinking I was fixing my mistake.. and so on. I'll try to sort it. If you help, so be it. I'll start by reorganizing that History & Lore page to be what just made Tome of Knowledge/History & Lore to be. ¬ WTarrasque { talk | contribs } 07:39, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
I'll be glad to help out; there's been a lot of confusion here, and I did my part in adding to it. The original discussion was in regard to categories, in which the slash-based naming structure would have been appropriate, but somewhere along the line it was applied to the naming of the articles themselves. Anyway, we'll get this straightened out. My apologies. -- Heaven's Agent 07:44, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
I wish there was a way to talk to you directly, in-game or by AIM. I'm kind of waiting for you to confirm things before I fix them. I think I FINALLY got it RIGHT. So simple, I actually can DESCRIBE IT. See it outlined here, even in the right place: History & Lore
Tenets:
  1. Each 'History & Lore' page is a subpage of the zone's page. This makes SENSE!
  2. Each Page is categorized by it's pairing and its Tier.
    1. The Tier's are subcategories of [:Category:History & Lore]. Category:History & Lore/Tier 1 Zones
    2. The Pairing's are subcategories of [:Category:History & Lore]. Ex: Category:History & Lore/Dwarfs vs. Greenskins
  3. Each Page contains all the unlocks in the zone, organized by being Destruction Only, Order Only, or Both
  4. ????
  5. Profit!
That's my spiel. What do you think? ¬ WTarrasque { talk | contribs } 07:55, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
To quote one of my favorite television personalities, "That's money." -- Heaven's Agent 07:57, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks again for all the help Heaven. Can I give you a gold star somehow? ¬ WTarrasque { talk | contribs } 08:25, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

We're getting it done. That's all the gold star I need.
Good work to you as well. You've put a lot into this. That said, we're getting to the point where two cooks are one too many; I've noticed we've both been editing a few pages at the same time. I'm heading to bed. Take care. :D -- Heaven's Agent 08:37, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
May the cherubs bring you dreams of whatever you wish to dream of. Personally, I have started dreaming of wiki edits some nights. I'm going to bed, too, cause our task is done, as far as I've checked. Sorry to impinge on your edits. Your help with this tonight was essential, and I think we hashed out a directory structure, by trial-and-error at the least. ... I wonder how much faster I could've done this all with admin powers.
I'm posting our decisions to: HammerWiki talk:Community Portal/Structure
Thanks again! ¬ WTarrasque { talk | contribs } 08:44, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] I'd like your opinion!!

First, thanks again for the great work with History & Lore - soooo helpful!!

I'm bringing up a topic soon in the talk for chapter about the tome of knowledge, and its tabs. History & Lore being an extensive tab of it, I'd like to hear your opinions of a fully working tome of knowlege. I'd also like to hear what you think of oranization, and formatting. I think it would be neat if all the pages could have similar themed formatting, and I think History & Lore is the most completed formatting wise.

Thanks in advance for your opinion - you've really done great so far Silenas-n-Jynnx 05:54, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Although User:Heaven's Agent and I did a decent job with History & Lore, I think that it won't work for every Tome of Knowledge category, due to the different nature of the content...
I'm about to spend some time talking here, so excuse my rambling. First, the strengths and weaknesses of the History & Lore section, as is.
The History & Lore page is broken down by Realm vs. Realm pairing, then by Tier, than by Zone. This is similar to the actual Tome of Knowledge layout but is more friendly to a webpage, and eliminates multiple page click-throughs.[1]
Each page contains the location of the unlock in words, and in coordinates.[2] Each page is categorized by Pairing and by Tier, meaning that you can find the page you seek easily using the History & Lore page or the category pages. Finally, each page lists the paired zones of the same tier, so as you run around a tier you don't need to do many click-throughs to find what you want.
What is missing from this is the maximum content: A full description of what each History & Lore unlock says. This would be the Pièce de résistance, but it requires far too much transcribing for me to do. Even I don't care that much, I'd rather find the unlocks in game and read them there as a reward!
I will now suggest what I think could be done for each part of the ToK.
Quests
I believe these can be organized by zone and tier, but become rapidly too complex for a simple format as there are chains, travel quests, epic quest, pvp quests, and so on. A single quest would fit into a zone, type of quest, tier, and realm categories. I think quests should be organized by categories, but expect them to get messy and complex and sometimes cross-categorized. That will happen, it's part of the game world.
War Story
Fairly easy to organize. Very easy to transcribe. Each storyline has a page for it, which links to it's chapters. Each page has it's introduction chapter, which either links to it's subchapters or has the subchapters on the same page below it. I'd suggest all of a chapter on the same page to reduce click-throughs. So, each chapter would be organized as below.
Chapter 42
Chapter Story
Story Content
PQ 1 Name
  • Stage 1 Name
  • Stage 2 Name
  • Stage 3 Name
Subchapter Story content
PQ 2 Name
  • Stage 1 Name
  • Stage 2 Name
  • Stage 3 Name
Subchapter Story content
PQ 3 Name
  • Stage 1 Name
  • Stage 2 Name
  • Stage 3 Name
Subchapter Story content
I guess I don't see how else you'd want to organize it
Achievements
I'd set this one up exactly like the ToK. The main page would have a large list with links to each main category of achievements. Each subcategory would be listed. Each individual achievement would be listed, as with History & Lore, on the individual subcategory's page. Each Category has it's own page, which could be a category: page, OR redirects to the main page but directed to the right part of the main list. Each subcategory has it's own page, listing the achievements in that subcategory and the method of achieving them. Against, a collapsible list that opens when you click on it, rather than by a show/hide button, would made this very pretty and readable.
Rewards
As with the ToK, it would be a laundry list, but with 4 sections, 1 for each part of the Rewards. Sections are: Title, Tactics, Items, & Cards
History & Lore
As is, or with collapsible lists on first page.
Noteworthy Persons
I'd set this up exactly as History & Lore is now, and was going to when I had the time. Again, the actual in-game text is a bonus, but should be collapsible on a page, perhaps even with the collapsible area that says how to get the unlock.
Bestiary
I would replicate the outline/list of the ToK in-game and the individual pages per category of monster, and individual pages per monster in that category. More clickthroughs, but gives credence to every type of mob.
Armory
I have no idea. I haven't seen enough of this to know what to say. I apologize.
There are my recommendations. If I haven't been specific enough, or you would like have an intelligent discussion on whether I am correct or not, please go ahead. My opinions have been proven ridiculously wrong far too often, just look at the request for deletion list sometime. >.>
I realized I never mentioned formatting. This is because formatting a page is completely dependent on the opinion of the individual organizing it. You can see how each History & Lore zone is organized, and I think it works pretty well. It's not the prettiest, but it's very functional. If you look [[1]] or [[2]] you'll see a different layout. I try to make my layouts extremely readable and easy for someone to get the information they want. Yet I also want it to be pretty and welcoming. The collapsible tags help, but History & Lore definitively could use a template that makes it pretty - maybe even organizes the spoiler templates nicely into it, with a separate collapsible for the content for the unlock in game.
In any regard, a consistent, polished look is more important than very task specific looks. I would try to make it make sense for someone going from the Achievement section to the History & Lore section to the Bestiary section, and easy to use all of them congruently if necessary. I'm too tired now, no sense making longer, bed going ¬ WTarrasque { talk | contribs } 07:43, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
As a final note for today (I think), I believe the start of what you want, with each page having a similar formatting setup, can be orchestrated here: Template:TOK ¬ WTarrasque { talk | contribs } 15:44, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] A proposal for you

How would you like to do more work WTarrasque? I realize you've only been with the project a few months, but from what i've seen you're a responsible editor with common sense. And you have the patience to discuss things into the ground, which is needed on wikis for complicated games like this. If I were to get User:Bishop to give you rollback rights, would you be interested in using them (that is to say, it's really only appropriate to use them for vandalism and personal attacks)? I haven't asked Bishop about you specifically yet, but I doubt he would have a problem with giving you that right.

I am honored. I would love to help maintain the integrity of the Wiki. Just don't give me a banhammer, I wouldn't know what to do with myself. Thanks again! ¬ WTarrasque { talk | contribs } 03:29, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
Okay, you should have those priveliges now (recent changes for the win). Don't let us down or we'll be forced to boil you alive and feed you to the Nurglings ;) ~ Revoran | talk 09:31, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
Why can't it be both? ¬ WTarrasque { talk | contribs } 02:58, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Notes

  1. ↑ If I could make each Pairing collapsible, and make it such that clicking on the name of the pairing (Dwarfs vs. Greenskins) would expand the Tiers and Zones, I would. It would be concise to look at, figure out what you want, and get to it without clicking through many pages. Since I can't do it, we have an outline format on the History & Lore page.
  2. ↑ They are listed as spoiler templates so that a casual user won't learn where to go by mistake, he or she has to CHOOSE to see the location.

[edit] Worth a look?

Heya,is morri:) Since im dealing with you I wasnt sure if wiki uses other sites for reference purposes and someone checks them out.Came across this in my travels through forums tonight,unsure how new it is but i can verify many of the bestiary unlocks contained it in,has maps etc and seems from first glance to be rather good.http://www.tomeofknowledge.info/

Unlike Wikipedia, we don't require references or make a big fuss when there is none, however if you can get references for things like this, that's great and only serves to solidify information on the wiki. Feel free to reference reputable sites (except where the content on those sites is taken from HammerWiki like on Alakhazam and some others) - the functionality is already in place. ~ Revoran | talk 13:09, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Worth a look! ;)

I was hoping you could give your thoughts on this matter. Thanks again for your contributions. ~ Revoran | talk 01:04, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't see there is any thoughts to give? THere is a channel for HammerWiki IRC. I'll join it :-) ♣ WTarrasque ( T | C | F ) 06:13, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Shadowlands noteworthy's

Heya, Am in the process of doing high elves NP.Ive noticed that the names of the places that someone has popped in for shadowlands do not correspond with the names of the actual Chapters,wont be able to do pages on them so i need to change them to the chapter names.Just wanted to check it was ok to change them. Cheers,Morrioghan 00:42, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Morrigohan: To quote Wikipedia: Edit Boldly. Meaning edit when you think things need to be edited, and contribute as much as you'd like to. If there is a problem it could always be undone fairly easily, adding NEW content is where all the work is. Thanks so much for contributing. ♣ WTarrasque ( T | C | F )

[edit] Reikland Np

Heya,can i get an edit to the spelling of the actual link that leads to reikland noteworthys pls(as in the initial top most title that isn't part of the editing section)cant edit it:) Cheers, Morrioghan 11:12, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

I don't know which page you are referring to, since I can't find it by searching the wiki. If you use the "move" function in the edit screen, you can rename the page, tho! :-) ҉   WTarrasque ( T | C | F )
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