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Contents 1 Storyline structure 2 Story Articles? 3 Working on rewards! 4 Now listen to me! 5 Goodbye - apparently they dont like me here 6 Extra note from Revoran 7 Why? 8 Item Template

[edit] Storyline structure

Hold it with the story articles! We are currently making up the structure for the storyline, please jump in to the discussion at Talk:Chapter, We want to keep the articles as close to the Tome structure as possible while still providing as much information as possible. ∞ Sunspots {Talk | Contribs} 15:49, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Story Articles?

Not sure what you mean... I have warhammer open, and am typing out what the tome of knowledge says. Not making any stories, just, well... data entering them. Please clarify what you meant. Thanks =) Silenas-n-Jynnx

OK, just looked at the thread. Please see WAR Story. Hopefully in a few days I can have that up and running quite nicely. Not only will it show the story, but it will have links to influence rewards for each career, and hopefully get a growing amount of information about PQ Bag Loot. Lemme know asap, cuz I was just about to start typing Greenskin prologue.

Silenas-n-Jynnx 16:24, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Moved conversation to above talk:chapter

[edit] Working on rewards!

Saraai 17:18, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi Silenas-n-Jynnx! I am kind of new here to Wikia/WAR and I have been adding some new stuff about influence rewards (specifically Witch Elf rewards.) You can find some of the pages I've done here: Influence Rewards

Now, I am still a noob and I am still learning proper formatting etc. to make this information easier to access. Any suggestions would be great!

Woo!! Thats great!! Im talking to another person - see a few posts up - who wants to make sure things are organized right - would be good to hear your input on that chat page Talk:chapter he has linked. If you're just adding text, what I've been doing is typing it up on word (or wordpad) and then when we figure it out, I can copy & paste the info in. Silenas-n-Jynnx 17:29, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

So, I was reading a post above about changing the name of a page. I think I am still only 2-3 days old on this account, so I cant change them yet. But, in the future where would I go to make the page name change? Saraai 17:41, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

When the time has come, the link to move a page should be added next to the editing, watch and history links above an article. ∞ Sunspots {Talk | Contribs} 17:47, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Now listen to me!

This is not your one-man show, the wiki is a collaboration between all of the contributors, if you keep going on with this ignorance you will eventually ruin the whole 'wiki' part and turn this to your own bloody information base, if you do not collaborate with your fellow contributors and try to keep a mutually agreed consistency between the pages, the wiki will only result in a whole mishmash. ∞ Sunspots {Talk | Contribs} 19:32, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Goodbye - apparently they dont like me here

I've just been yelled at for adding info, and so I'll go play warhammer instead of helping people out with information about it. Congrats to Sunspots! He gets to do it his way. Wonder how long it will take him =P

Take care - good luck and all that.

Oh - and if you call me a bloody rabbit during mating season again, I will sue you for sexual harassment. Silenas-n-Jynnx 20:09, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

NoooOOooOOoo! :( Don't let 1 kid ruin the game for everyone! Besides, its not like he cant go back and edit any info you put in, thats why its a wiki! Even he mentioned it: "Its a community." You are adding information, and he seems to enjoy adding formatting. I personally love adding information, and if people find its easier to read or get info out by changing the layout, so be it. Saraai 20:13, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

I am in no way here wanting to insult you, such behaviour rarely leads to anything good, I just want you to chill out, and as I have replied about 3-4 times, all I want is to discuss a matter. Me raising my voice - yes it was an unthoughtful decision. I understand if you think I am still being rude, which I won't blame you for, but sometimes the feelings manage to come before reason. (about the rabbit business, it is called a metaphor)∞ Sunspots {Talk | Contribs} 20:29, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

(perhaps it is you being a non-native English speaker, Sunspots, but it certainly seems that way from the fact you called her sexually insulting names, I'd suggest not doing it again and I hope you stick by what you say here - metaphors can be insulting just the same as any other literary device. ~ Revoran | talk 13:44, 27 September 2008 (UTC))

Okay, this has gone far enough. Sunspots, you're a great contributor to the wiki and I would expect much better behaviour from someone as intelligent as you. I can't believe I didn't notice this before now- that's what I get for going out and partying for a few days. Should I ask Bishop to remove your rollback priveliges? I'm not sure what this is over but from what I can gather, this is all over formatting 'on a wiki on the internet. Are you both honestly that annoyed over something so trivial? I'm 17 and even I have the perspective to realize that's what's needed is not flaming and sexual comments (which I have removed) - even if it was what you felt was for the good of the wiki.

And while I can understand if you feel distressed over this incident Silenas-n-Jynnx, (not to mention my mistake in banning you when you first joined), we do not make threats of legal action on this wiki. The wiki CANNOT OPERATE if you are issuing legal threats (be they empty or otherwise).

I don't expect everyone to get on with each other, or agree on editing practices, but I DO expect you all to act like mature individuals and if you cannot do that then you have no place on this wiki - i'm sorry to say. I suggest you both go and read our policy on HammerWiki:No personal attacks. And do not edit my changes above, either.

• Sunspots: You can always change edits later, there is no need to insult people, perhaps you have simply had the pleasure of editing by yourself for too long. I understand you tried to discuss first, but there is no exceptions for getting frustrated no matter how rediculous Silenas was acting. If you have nothing constructive to add, do not contribute (the same goes for you, Silenas).

• Silenas-n-Jynx: I apologise for the way that Sunspots acted, however if you violate HammerWiki:No personal attacks again, I will be forced to take more permanent action, and this time it won't be a mistake. Also, before making major changes to the style of articles, please discuss it with other users (without acting as if "they're all against me" etc) and edit only after you have reached a consensus. If you're going to act offended and immaturely in a discussion, you won't get far on HammerWiki.

Shame on both of you. User:Saraai acted admirably. ~ Revoran | talk 13:07, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

While you're at it, make sure to read ALL our policies on HammerWiki:Policy very carefully. And also Wikipedia's Assume good faith policy. ~ Revoran | talk 13:10, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Made some edits again after reading the childishness on Talk:Chapter. ~ Revoran | talk 13:31, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

And again, you can't get enough apologies, all I can say is that this was somewhat a bit of my personal issues that randomly spilled over onto another person, it was the wafer-thin mint à la Monty Python's The Meaning of Life, I know that personal issues isn't a good enough excuse to such behaviour, but I just want to make sure that I have gotten out that this was in no way anything personal against Silenas-n-Jynnx. ∞ Sunspots {Talk | Contribs} 14:21, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Extra note from Revoran

Oh and Silenas: never ever change talk pages if it might change what someone originally meant. Ie: Do not make it seem like someone said something they didn't or remove their comments altogether. There is no excuse for this - even I have only struck through unproductive comments. The only exception to this is obvious vandalism to the wiki or obvious typos. ~ Revoran | talk 13:48, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

To clarify, I haven't gone through page histories to see if this has been done (whether or not you meant to) - but just in case it has been done. Don't do it. ~ Revoran | talk 14:00, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

To aditionally clarify - I had written some questions about wiki-code - then realized that I could go to the main wiki site and find out more detailed information. Being new to a wiki community, and having written the post within the past 10 minutes, I thought it was harmless to change my questions into what I had learned. I now know that I should have struck out my comments or responded to them instead. Silenas-n-Jynnx 06:45, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Why?

I dont know why its ok for him to remove the remarks he said about me, and its not ok to take off a question that I answered myself. (ex: removed 'how do you have the link say one thing and link another place' because I learned how)

I apologize for the legal remark, but I will NOT accept such low brow sexual insults in the future. I felt genuinley harassed. I do not know of legal stipulations for message board style comments, but I felt that I had to tell him that I will NOT accept any type of comment like that ever again.

So - who's gonna search for "Bonerender's Boyz"? No one. Who's gonna search for "Greenskin Chapter 6"? well, that seems more likely. And because I thought that, and wanted to compromise, I tried the redirect thing, because I didn't know it was wrong. I tested it with a total of 5 pages. I thought that would be OK.

Next thing I know Im being insulted so rudely that I don't believe Im able to repeat it. Perhaps thats why the remark was removed? Not sure.

But apparently doing what I did was being rediculous, even though the information given is VERY LACKING even now. Revoran - you really believe I was being rediculous by testing something on 5 pages?

I contribute, get insulted severley, and then called rediculous by the moderator. I am so so so sorry I wasted my time here.

AND you still dont have any more destruction story line. That hurts the most. Silenas-n-Jynnx 02:55, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

It's generally not OK for anyone to remove text from a talk page, regardless of who wrote it, unless it's done by a moderator for legitimate reasons. That said, Revoran didn't accuse anyone of doing so.

Regarding the comment(s) that were made, though it's upsetting even to me, as an observer, that they were said, there's ultimately not much recourse for such things. Basically, you can stay and stick it out or leave, but beyond that there's not much that can be done other than bring it to a moderator's attention; generally anything other than these three actions will only result in escalation and prove nonconstructive. As for Revoran's statement (and I'm sure I'll be corrected if I'm wrong ;D ), I don't believe your edits were what being called ridiculous, nor do I believe that it was directed at you personally. Rather, I suspect it was the way your responded to the negative comments that Revoran was referring to.

I know I'm not alone when I say we would love to have you stick around and continue as a contributer here, to help make this wiki the most comprehensive WAR resource available; we can use all the help we can get. But if you decide to leave that's understandable, too. Whatever you decide, I wish you well. -- Heaven's Agent 05:21, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Frankly, I was interested in workin on the war story - the text, the rewards for each career, and PQ info, etc. Someone is working on the formatting etc, and complains when I add content - so I don't feel comfortable doing so as I'm not familiar with wiki templates and such. I know the person who started the story templates didn't have sections for influence rewards. But, my zeal for trying to get info available got a few people upset because I was new and didn't realize I wasn't doing it the way that was intended I guess.... I also have some issues with how the section should be organized (names of pages mostly) and I feel that it would be a lot of wasted work if people can't easily find the pages.

But thank you, Heaven's Agent - your well wishes have encouraged me to give it another shot. =) Silenas-n-Jynnx 05:22, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Heaven's Agent is right. When I said "rediculous" I meant how you responded, not your opinion itself or you, (you're well within your rights to have an opinion - differing opinions are what makes wiki editing interesting and it drives things to improve, whether or not I agree with it) - If you can help us grow and expand into a great information source, then you're more than welcome to stay. I just can't stand the sort of conflict that was going on is all.

Oh and i'm no "moderator" because HammerWiki isn't a forum ;) - A wiki admin like me shouldn't act in the same manner as a forum moderator because being overbearing of strict isn't usually required on a wiki (they're run with a collaborative effort, wheras forums are run in a more top-down manner) I hope I don't give off that impression from this incident. Have fun organising things with WTarrasque :)

Oh and if Sunspots removed something he said - please direct me to that history, those kinds of things shouldn't be happening, as I said. Though you might want to look again, as I did un-embolden a few of his comments (to make them easier on the eyes) - the comments themselves are still there though. ~ Revoran | talk 11:19, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Remember your VERY small text sized note about metaphores? I wont go into detail as to be civil, but thats what got removed. (Everything else just got struck out).... But sorry for calling you a moderator - still getting used to wiki terminology - administrator and moderator are a little interchangable how I think of it - I did not mean to be insulting in any way. I apologize.Silenas-n-Jynnx 17:11, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Well I am glad you are sticking around SnJ! Hope to see more from you! Saraai 17:34, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Thank you!! =) I'm being a bit more patient now, but soon enough Im gonna get a lot more content in!! Can't wait =)Silenas-n-Jynnx 17:45, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Good! Cause we need MORE!!! I have been busy the last few days, so I havent had time to work on much of anything! It kind of makes me sad. :( But I will get it done. Hopefully it will spark the interest of others, and they will help too. Its daunting to think of how much info there is that needs to be added...! Saraai 17:48, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Always more - For instance the Subzones are looking a bit bleak ... ;) - Erm, anyway, don't worry Silenas, I wasn't insulted at all - just making a point :), and I think you might want to check again cause whenever I view this page, I can see the very small text note I made ... it's further up there under one of Sunspots' comments. Oh and repeating something someone else said for the purposes of explaination doesn't count as being uncivil, but no worries anyway. ~ Revoran | talk 01:06, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Item Template

The question you asked me regarding an item/tooltip-type template had been bugging me since you brought it up. So much so, that I had to put something together.

I know we'll need to make additions as we go along, but that shouldn't be too difficult; I think I have the basic code we need written. I'd also like insight on what names we should use for the icons; I'd like them all to be similar, and eventually to put them together on a single, organized page for referencing purposes. At the moment I'm leaning toward the format [[Image:{{{type}}} 001.jpg]], [[Image:{{{type}}} 002.jpg]], etc., though [[Image:{{{type}} {{{slot}} 001.jpg]] and [[Image:{{{career}}} {{{slot}}} 001.jpg]] are also some formats I'm considering.

Anyway, I'd love to hear your thoughts on the matter, and any ideas you have for improving the template before we start implementing it throughout the project. -- Heaven's Agent 18:30, 25 October 2008 (UTC)