HammerWiki talk:Community Portal/Wikia Merger/Archive 1
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[edit] Policy Review
The current policies are all being used as the de facto guidelines for establishing content. Most of these were ported over from GuildWiki, but it's probably about time we established a set of HammerWiki policies on our own terms. This isn't an especially urgent task, but considering the current set of proposed policies have been sitting there for a while with no movement towards becoming established, I thought it was worth trying to move the discussion forward.
HammerWiki:Article_retention in particular needs reviewing. Mostly to deal with the No Guild Pages policy. As Gem suggested, I had a look at the policy they use over at Guild Wars Wiki, and there seems to be a case for including a Guild namespace for guilds to use. It might also be worth clarifying that we have an article to link to external fansites. --Pendrako talk 12:00, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- The main reason why I have not moved on this, one way or the other, is that I don't agree with Gem. The official Guild Wars Wiki is currently down, so I cannot access the probably great arguments, but every time I've thought about it in the past, the arguments contained in HammerWiki:No guild pages have won out in my mind. --Bishop 16:28, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- The argument basically boils down to, if you allow users to add their character profiles to their personal pages in the User namespace, why not allow guilds to set up guild profiles under a Guild (or Regiment) namespace? It's fair to say that including guild articles as part of the main wiki would never be an option, but setting up a seperate namespace would segregate guild pages from the main wiki content enough so that they didn't become too much of an annoyance.
[edit] Skins
Should we stick with monobook, or should we switch to a different skin design? Bear in mind that most of the articles have been put together based around a white background, so changing to something else could detract from the quality of these articles when it comes to the graphics and colours used. --Pendrako talk 12:00, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- Monobook or not, is not important to me. White background, however, is. For readability and accessibility, there's is no equal. Oh, and on a side note, left-hand-navigation is also The Right Thing. Wikias right-hand menu is not my cup of tea. I do, however, like the idea of users being able to choose between skins, as long as the default one is a sane one. Monobook fits that bill. --Bishop 16:30, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- I agree that a white background and left hand navigation is generally the way to go, but I feel that we could work up something a bit fancier... like [this], for example. --Pendrako talk 21:29, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what exactly would be possible, not being a code monkey myself. But would it be possible to have multiple skins and allow users to choose which one they wish to view the wiki in? Ala vBulletin? At the bottom of that main page is a small link to several different skins - and it obviously only changes the user's individual view in their browser - like Stylish for Firefox. If something like that were possible, then we could have two versions of the wiki, ie: dark and light skins. ~ Revoran 02:16, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
- I agree that a white background and left hand navigation is generally the way to go, but I feel that we could work up something a bit fancier... like [this], for example. --Pendrako talk 21:29, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Wikia Integration
I'm not sure what effect the switch to wikia's code will have here, but hopefully it shouldn't cause too many headaches. With the move towards wikia, there's also the issue of taking advantage of the resources available from wikia central. Warhammeronline.wikia had a few good help pages which I'm guessing had been drawn from the main wikia help section - it might be worth incorporating a few of the more useful help articles here.
A Hammerwiki forum might also be useful. --Pendrako talk 12:00, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Technical stuff
- Interwiki links - does wikia have a system for linking directly to other wikis? I tried using [w:c:wikianame:pagename] as described in wikia's Interwiki help page, but that linked to wikipedia, to an article called c:pagename. I'm guessing there's either an easier way of doing this, or there's a setting that needs to be changed.
- Sidebar menu - Any suggestions on how this could be improved? I've been checking Wikia's sidebar help page, and it all seems fairly straightforward. The forum link needs to be changed, for a start. Which leads me to...
- Forums - Unless there are loud cries of despair, I'm going to have a go at setting up Wikia forums for HammerWiki at some point in the near future. Hopefully I won't break anything.
- Vandalbots - These are still a problem. We need to come up with a solution.
[EDIT] A couple of extra points:
- User accounts - It's possible that people having accounts on Wikia and Gamewikis might have issues, especially if someone else is using their username.
- Curse integration - The Curse Gaming website will probably be integrating HammerWiki in their WAR site as a wiki resource for their readers (see WoWwiki@curse for a good example of how it might work), as part of their partnership with Wikia. I'm guessing that this will mostly be handled by the tech guys working behind the scenes, but if there's any issues we need to be working on for this, now would be a good time to start thinking about them.
--Pendrako talk 16:29, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
- Those are all good points, but as long as HammerWiki has not actually been moved to the Wikia code base yet, I don't think there's too much we can do/find out/improve about most of them. Although as far as I am concerned, go right ahead and set up a forums -- although, in my experience, talk pages are pretty much all that is needed for good inter-wiki communication. --Bishop 23:42, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
- OK, I wasn't aware that the code base hadn't been switched yet. Hopefully when that happens all these issues should be resolved fairly quickly. The Wikia forums I was going to set up use their standard templates and extra bits of code, so presumably that will need to wait until the switch as well. Hopefully we'll get a clear indication of when the switch takes place. --Pendrako talk 16:29, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Code Merge
HammerWiki has been moved to the Wikia code-base. This means that all the standard features available on Wikia are now available on HammerWiki. The user database has not been merged yet but will at some point in the future. Please use this section to report any bugs or problems that you experience. --KyleH 22:15, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
